Amir Oosman Take-Over – Drummers I Like Podcast #36


Welcome back to this week’s episode of Drummers I Like. Today isn’t an ordinary show, today we have our first ever take over episode! Amir Oosman will be hosting, and his guest and good friend Nick Arocho will be sharing his experiences and inspirations. Amir is an exceptional musician, producer, and engineer. He has played and taught with the Blue Devils. Nick also has a background in drumline performing as well with the Blue Devils, RCC, and takes that experience and structure with him. So get ready to be inspired by these amazing lads!

0:00-3:40 – Richard Introduces Amir, explains a little about how they met, and how Amir and Nick have become good friends. Richard then quickly lets Amir have the wheel and take us on this amazing ride!

3:40-11:00 – We delve into Nick’s past and what brought him to the drums, and ultimately to the drum kit. Nick started and has a deep rooted past with drumline. Nick has played in the Drum Corp for Arizona State, Blue Devils, and RCC. He has won world championships awards as well. For Nick, the daily challenges he faced while in the drum corp really helped him mature, not only as a drummer but as an individual, from all day practices in the Arizona heat to a metronome beating into his ears.

11:00 – 14:30 – How did your drumline experience help you play drum set? For Nick, the biggest transition pain, switching to the kit, was adjusting to the size of the drumsticks used to play jazz. Along with having a smaller stick, playing with more dynamics was also a new take for Nick when moving away from the Bass Drum. On the bright side tho, learning to play to a metronome really helped Nick fall into the pocket while playing jazz.

14:30 – 22:20 – Nick and Amir now share how they are able to play in a Drum Corp. For those who might not know, playing in drum corp is expensive, and for those just starting out, they might not have a support system behind them to finance equipment or transport them. Nick points out that although he had a support system behind him when starting out if he didn’t have that support, the best way to find it is reaching out to the community for help. Asking neighbors, local businesses, and really getting creative in your approach to achieving your goals is key to receiving that support. There is no downside to being told no if the person saying no isn’t giving you anything already.

22:20 – 36:00 – Amir shifts us away from drumline to point out that Nick isn’t only an amazing drummer but he is a talented web designer. While Nick was attending ASU he took web design as an elective. From there, Nick started designing websites for his friends and eventually was asked if he could design a website for money. Since then Nick has designed websites for many well-known Musicians such as Wayne Bergeron, Scott Johnson, and much more. Nick has been able to create amazing websites, while also using that as a network for his music. Even tho music isn’t his main source of income, Nick finds that the two coincide with one another in how he learns and shares new ideas and content. Amir expands on how inspiring it is how Nick has grown his web design business just by having confidence, and desire to learn and grow.

36:00 – 42:00 – All of this amazing knowledge and talent that Nick has acquired is not the result of sitting and hoping, it’s from taking on new experiences with confidence. One of the ways Nick works out his brain is by ready. Amir asks Nick if he has any material, such as books or online resources, that he uses to learn a new craft or further gain knowledge? Aside from the obvious Youtube, and Google, Nick uses a website called, which has hundreds of lectures and books available. Nick also reads many books such as How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie, The One Thing by Gar Keller and Jay Papasan, and Tools of Titans by Timothy Ferriss.

42:00 – 56:00 – After all these questions they still don’t stop and I’m glad they don’t because with so much going on with Nick it definitely has to be a balancing act between it all. So what is it for Nick that helps him keep it all in line and moving forward in a positive direction? Web design being completely separate from drumming and performing, Nick finds it easiest to set a schedule each week that allows him to achieve every goal, whether it be finishing someone’s site to rehearsing for the next show, time has to be made for everything.

Nick and Amir also discuss how fear is also a driving factor for both of them, and being such close friends they share some common fears that are very down to earth and something young musicians might share as well. Nick finds that the fear of someone else working harder, learning more and growing is what pushes him to constantly practice and learn. Since Nick and Amir are such good friends they have inspired each other to always do better, just as how Nick has pushed Amir out of his shell of not sharing with the world. They also both share the idea that being human and having humanity when sharing and reaching out is a very important aspect of success, not just in the music industry, but in any field. Humanity is a trait a lot of people don’t have or chose to not show, that can isolate them from reaching the top.

Rapid Singles

  1. What was holding you back from becoming a successful drummer?  Not enough practice
  2. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received? Keep It Simple Stupid
  3. what’s a personal habit that contributes to your success? Motivation
  4. share for us a resource or tool that helps you survive as a drummer. Metronome
  5. If you could recommend just one book. what would it be and why? Syncopation for the Modern drummer by Ted Reed
  6. Imagine you woke up tomorrow in a world exactly like ours, you still had all the same knowledge and talent that you have as a drummer but you know no one. All you have is $500, a smartphone, and small portable drum set. What would you do first? Go to the beach, set up and shed, and set out a hat and hope people put in a few dollars.


Thanks for listening to this weeks takeover episode! Nick and Amir put on an amazing show! Thanks, Amir Oosman for hosting! Thanks to Nick Arocho for being on the show and for letting Amir pick your brain! Thanks again for tuning in and all the links to nicks websites will be posted below as well as links to everything Drummers I Like. There’s even a place to write a little review!!

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